Petition for gardener who shot and killed burglar

[BurfordTJustice]

Not unlike the UK where protecting yourself and your family
is forbidden.

Petition for gardener who shot and killed burglar
Nearly 85,000 people show support for property owner facing manslaughter
charge after he killed a burglar in his Hérault home


Nearly 85,000 people have signed an online petition in supporting a Hérault
property owner who shot and killed a burglar on October 5, and demanding a
change to France's self-defence laws.

The petition is accompanied by an open letter to Minister of Justice Nicole
Belloubet headlined: A victim risks imprisonment for protecting his family.

A Facebook support page, meanwhile, has nearly 48,000 likes, for 'Daniel', a
landscape gardener, whose Saint-Adrien venue in Servian, near Béziers, as
featured on France 2 show Le jardin preferé des Français.

He faces a manslaughter charge after shooting one of two burglars who broke
into his home. He reportedly told police that the pair were armed, and
attacked him and his wife.

Franceinfo reports that he then seized a gun that he owns to drive wild boar
from his award-winning gardens, and shot one of the criminals as they headed
upstairs in search of valuables.

The other burglar fled the scene.

The property owner remains at liberty, despite being under investigation, as
police seek to determine whether the conditions that would justify a
self-defence mitigation are met. In a statement, Béziers prosecutor Yvon
Calvet said: "The person who has fired must have been, as objectively as
possible, certain of being in danger of death."

[BurfordTJustice]

Post by BurfordTJustice
Not unlike the UK where protecting yourself and your family
is forbidden.

Rubbish self defence is well established in English law - gangster Kenneth
Noye successfully used it to gain acquittal after killing a policeman in his
garden.

Post by BurfordTJustice
Petition for gardener who shot and killed burglar
Nearly 85,000 people show support for property owner facing manslaughter
charge after he killed a burglar in his Hérault home
Nearly 85,000 people have signed an online petition in supporting a Hérault
property owner who shot and killed a burglar on October 5, and demanding a
change to France's self-defence laws.
The petition is accompanied by an open letter to Minister of Justice Nicole
Belloubet headlined: A victim risks imprisonment for protecting his family.
A Facebook support page, meanwhile, has nearly 48,000 likes, for 'Daniel', a
landscape gardener, whose Saint-Adrien venue in Servian, near Béziers, as
featured on France 2 show Le jardin preferé des Français.
He faces a manslaughter charge after shooting one of two burglars who broke
into his home. He reportedly told police that the pair were armed, and
attacked him and his wife.
Franceinfo reports that he then seized a gun that he owns to drive wild boar
from his award-winning gardens, and shot one of the criminals as they headed
upstairs in search of valuables.
The other burglar fled the scene.
The property owner remains at liberty, despite being under investigation, as
police seek to determine whether the conditions that would justify a
self-defence mitigation are met. In a statement, Béziers prosecutor Yvon
Calvet said: "The person who has fired must have been, as objectively as
possible, certain of being in danger of death."

[tim...]

Post by BurfordTJustice
Not unlike the UK where protecting yourself and your family
is forbidden.
Petition for gardener who shot and killed burglar
Nearly 85,000 people show support for property owner facing manslaughter
charge after he killed a burglar in his Hérault home
Nearly 85,000 people have signed an online petition in supporting a
Hérault property owner who shot and killed a burglar on October 5, and
demanding a change to France's self-defence laws.
The petition is accompanied by an open letter to Minister of Justice
Nicole Belloubet headlined: A victim risks imprisonment for protecting his
family.
A Facebook support page, meanwhile, has nearly 48,000 likes, for 'Daniel',
a landscape gardener, whose Saint-Adrien venue in Servian, near Béziers,
as featured on France 2 show Le jardin preferé des Français.
He faces a manslaughter charge after shooting one of two burglars who
broke into his home. He reportedly told police that the pair were armed,
and attacked him and his wife.
Franceinfo reports that he then seized a gun that he owns to drive wild
boar from his award-winning gardens, and shot one of the criminals as they
headed upstairs in search of valuables.

shooting someone heading away from you is not self defense

it's a well established legal principle

tim

[BurfordTJustice]

Post by BurfordTJustice
and shot one of the criminals as they

Post by BurfordTJustice
headed upstairs in search of valuables.

shooting someone heading away from you is not self defense
it's a well established legal principle

Um, if the crook is committing a forcible felony, he can be shot dead.
In my house. Cops shoot fleeing felons all the time. Courts have
rulled it justified. An unarmed prison escapee can be shot dead with
no warning, command to stop or a verbal warning. Even is unarmed.

[tim...]

Post by BurfordTJustice
and shot one of the criminals as they

Post by BurfordTJustice
headed upstairs in search of valuables.

shooting someone heading away from you is not self defense
it's a well established legal principle

Um, if the crook is committing a forcible felony, he can be shot dead.

if in your county that's a specifically allowed act then that would be a
valid defence

but it still wouldn't be a self defence defence

tim

[Ed Pawlowski]

Post by tim...

Post by BurfordTJustice
and shot one of the criminals as they

Post by BurfordTJustice
headed upstairs in search of valuables.

shooting someone heading away from you is not self defense
it's a well established legal principle

Um, if the crook is committing a forcible felony, he can be shot dead.

if in your county that's a specifically allowed act then that would be a
valid defence
but it still wouldn't be a self defence defence
tim

If he is breaking in, you can shoot, but if he is leaving, you cannot
shoot him in the back. Best to wait and blast him once the door or
window is open and drag the body inside at least partially.

I don't feel bad about a thief getting shot in the back but it is not
legal to do so.

[Ophelia]

Post by tim...

Post by BurfordTJustice
and shot one of the criminals as they

Post by BurfordTJustice
headed upstairs in search of valuables.

shooting someone heading away from you is not self defense
it's a well established legal principle

Um, if the crook is committing a forcible felony, he can be shot dead.

if in your county that's a specifically allowed act then that would be a
valid defence
but it still wouldn't be a self defence defence
tim

If he is breaking in, you can shoot, but if he is leaving, you cannot
shoot him in the back. Best to wait and blast him once the door or
window is open and drag the body inside at least partially.

I don't feel bad about a thief getting shot in the back but it is not
legal to do so.

==

We can't shoot anyone breaking in either. To be able to shoot we have to
consider our life to be at immediate risk.

[BurfordTJustice]

France and the UK are both part of the EU who rules all.

Post by BurfordTJustice
and shot one of the criminals as they

Post by BurfordTJustice
headed upstairs in search of valuables.

shooting someone heading away from you is not self defense
it's a well established legal principle

Um, if the crook is committing a forcible felony, he can be shot dead.
In my house. Cops shoot fleeing felons all the time. Courts have
rulled it justified. An unarmed prison escapee can be shot dead with
no warning, command to stop or a verbal warning. Even is unarmed.

This is a UK group - most of the above is baloney here.